This is my response to the following post by Joshua Benson on the Facebook group “I attended Pensacola Christian College”.
The last thread was getting bogged down with too many rabbit trails for me to follow, so let’s start with a fresh thread. I’d like to ask you a serious question.
Is the Creation lying to you?
I would hope your answer is no! But I have a problem with YEC doctrine, because when you follow it to its conclusion, the answer from YEC is an unmistakable yes.
I’ll let you chew on that while I post an example below. But bear in mind, God’s character is at stake.
For example, we are told that existence has been created with the illusion of age. This seems to make sense at first. Adam and Eve were made as adults, why not everything else?
Keep in mind that the text never explicitly says that God created everything with an illusion of being older than it really is–so that idea is speculation, not doctrine.
If it is night for you right now, take a look at the stars in the sky. One particular light in that sky is known as supernova 1987A. It is a star that exploded at a distance of approximately 170,000 light years from the solar system. So the light from that explosion takes 170,000 years to reach our eyes.
Did that star explode? Or did God just make it look like it did?
A scientist looks up at the light from supernova 1987A, and he measures the distance that light traveled, and how fast light travels. He calculates that it took the starlight 170,000 years to reach us. No foundational belief, whether evolutionary or YEC, affects the math of the measurement. With the right equipment you can go measure it yourself with unquestionable accuracy.
So we’re left with only these options.
1. God caused the light to instantly zap from that source to us for the purpose of of signs in our sky. The star didn’t actually explode 170,000 years ago, although if we could fly there, we’d see exploded “star guts”. The Creation has fooled our senses. Math, the universal language of truth, has lied to us.
2. The light was not instantly zapped, but instead was under the effect of some phenomena, such as time dilation. So the star did explode, but for some reason the light arrived at earth much faster, at least from our point of view. This viewpoint says that there’s a variable in the math that’s missing.
3. The star did explode 170,000 years ago, and we can trust the math. The Creation has not deceived us.
Your premise is that existence has been created with the illusion of age, and then you cite a common example used to support that view, complete with a few of the ways it could fit in a YEC view (these are called rescuing devices). The flip side is to question why existence has been created with the ‘illusion’ of being only functionally mature/young and then cite an example such as the existence of Comets and a corresponding rescuing device – an Oort Cloud.
The point is that with our limited knowledge of the universe, both points of view will have something that can be difficult to understand, but if we start with faith in the word of God, that He exalted above his name and preserved from the generation it was written, forever, then we can believe it when it says the stars were created on day 4 of creation.
While I like some of the positions of Ben Carson, the closer I look at him as a Presidential Candidate, the less I like.
A big reason was when he came out against Kim Davis, but since then I have looked at his website and I’m concerned that his stance on religious freedom is far too narrow. On his campaign website he has the following statement in his section entitled “Keep Faith in Our Society”:
However, we need to reverse the recent trend of secular progressives using activist, federal judges to drive faith out of our society. Anyone who wishes to practice their faith, for example by praying privately, can and should be able to do so. Equally, the rights of someone to abstain from private prayer should also be jealously protected.
This is a far too limited view. practicing faith is far more than “praying privately” and “private prayer”.
Here are some random thoughts I’ve collected, mostly from Sermons.
Battle the fire of your child’s will early and often. Matches extinguished prevent wildfires.
A little sin is just as bad as a big sin. God hates sin, all sin of all sizes, including yours. Who wants a little cyanide?
If there is no loss of fellowship, there is no recognition that there is a problem, and nothing to restore when there is repentance.
Love is doing right by the person you love. – Bill Rice III
When a husband loves he shows submission and when a wife submits, she shows love. – Bill Rice III
The best lies are plausible and the greatest truths require faith. – Will Rice
If I choose when and how I am going to obey, I am not obeying – Will Rice
If I’m searching for happiness, its the last thing I’ll ever find. – Will Rice
Serving God is not slavery unless serving sin is freedom. – Will Rice
Things don’t always have to make sense, but they do in the Bible. – Will Rice
Parenting isn’t about what kind of kids you have, its about what kind of parents you are. – Bill Rice III
The way you get a child’s heart is through his compliance. – Bill Rice III
The quality of your life will never exceed the quality of your attitude. – Will Rice
By the time most people figure out what is not going to make them happy, they are dead. – Will Rice
We all choose music that identifies us with things and people. As a Bible believer we ought to choose music that identifies us with believers. The world has it’s genres of music — rock, rap, country, etc. — none of which are distinctively Christian. I want to identify myself as a Christian, as part of the church, the bride of Christ, not just with the words of my music, but with what and who it represents and is associated with.
1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
Colossians 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
A new opportunity has come up. I was laid off of work Monday afternoon. It was not entirely unexpected given the changes taking place in the company, but was unexpected given that those changes weren’t complete, I was told I would be retained, and had quite a lot of work in progress. In any case, it makes no difference if someone meant it “for evil” or not, because God means it for good. We don’t know exactly how yet or when, but there can be no mistake that he does. I have several very good references and am working with several recruiters, but of course it is God that will do the providing.
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